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GREN Working Group Meetup at TNC 22
by Dan Sellars 15 Jun '22

15 Jun '22

Hello all, I hope that you are well and looking forward to TNC! We haven’t got a formal meeting planned for the WG, everyone seems so busy and it is hard to organise a time. It would be a shame not to get as many people as possible together though. To that end here are our options: Ryan will be hosting a demo/office hours period at the GÉANT booth on Wednesday at noon, this would be an excellent time to meet up if you can swing it in your schedules. Ryan and I will be at the GNA-G meeting on Monday morning. One other option that was suggested to me, if the conference dinner on Wednesday evening is not fixed seating we could socialise and try and sit together then. I appreciate that many of you will have other plans already. Don’t forget that Ryan is doing a lightening talk in the Auditorium on Wednesday afternoon at 15:00 (https://tnc22.geant.org/lightning-talks/#c192) so it would be great to get as many of you as possible there. Ryan and I will be at the GÉANT booth following that if anyone wants to chat after his talk. Let us know what might work for you or if you have another idea that might work. This will be my first TNC so I am not sure what other opportunities might present themselves. I look forward to catching up or meeting for the first time as many of you as I can. Best Regards, Dan. From: "Schopf, Jennifer M" <jmschopf(a)indiana.edu> Date: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 7:46 AM To: Ryan Davies <Ryan.Davies(a)canarie.ca>, "Gren-mapping-wg(a)lists.nordu.net" <Gren-mapping-wg(a)lists.nordu.net>, Tom Vitez <Tom.Vitez(a)canarie.ca>, "ajay(a)sanren.ac.za" <ajay(a)sanren.ac.za>, "john(a)sanren.ac.za" <john(a)sanren.ac.za>, "ian.galpin(a)geant.org" <ian.galpin(a)geant.org>, Dan Doyle <daldoyle(a)globalnoc.iu.edu> Subject: [GREN-Mapping-WG] Re: Actions Requested: GREN Map Initial Release Task List External This email originated from outside the organization. Use caution when following links as they could open malicious web sites. Hello- I’ve been out of the office and just catching up now. Did this group find a time to meet at TNC? -j ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Jennifer M. Schopf Director, International Networks Director, Engagement and Performance Operations Center Indiana University From: Ryan Davies <Ryan.Davies(a)canarie.ca> Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 1:19 AM To: Gren-mapping-wg(a)lists.nordu.net <Gren-mapping-wg(a)lists.nordu.net>, Tom Vitez <Tom.Vitez(a)canarie.ca>, ajay(a)sanren.ac.za <ajay(a)sanren.ac.za>, john(a)sanren.ac.za <john(a)sanren.ac.za>, ian.galpin(a)geant.org <ian.galpin(a)geant.org>, Dan Doyle <daldoyle(a)globalnoc.iu.edu>, Schopf, Jennifer M <jmschopf(a)indiana.edu> Subject: Actions Requested: GREN Map Initial Release Task List Hello GREN Mappers, As you may know, we are preparing to release the first public version of the GREN Map system software this year. At our last meeting, we discussed a draft list of tasks remaining before we are ready to do so. The list can be found on the Working Group’s wiki: https://wiki.geant.org/display/GlobalMap/Version+1.0+Release+Task+List We are looking for members to participate in two ways: 1. Review the task list. Please let me know if you feel there are any items missing to get ready for “version one point zero” release, or if you have any other feedback about the list. (Note that of course we intend for development to continue after v1.0 is released. There is a long wish list of features still in the backlog, and surely more will be proposed once this is out in the wild. For the moment, we want to identify what is required as a bare minimum for the system to function usefully and securely enough to start assembling real data and publishing some basic maps.) 2. Sign up to oversee tasks. We are looking specifically for names attached to the “Managed By” field for each task, not the “Assigned To” fields for the subtasks. What this means is that accepting these responsibilities would not necessarily imply doing any of the actual work (although we would welcome that too!), but rather to plan the implementation, recruit people to do the work, supervise the task, ensure it gets done, and briefly report on progress when appropriate. The task list page may look long, but don’t be fooled, the tasks are mostly each quite small; many likely involve only a handful of hours! Please reach out to me if you have any feedback or questions, or if you’d like to go ahead and sign up to manage a task! Our imminent meeting is also another great time to bring anything up. Ideally, we request your responses by February 1. Cheers, Ryan

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Actions Requested: GREN Map Initial Release Task List
by Ryan Davies 01 Jun '22

01 Jun '22

Hello GREN Mappers, As you may know, we are preparing to release the first public version of the GREN Map system software this year. At our last meeting, we discussed a draft list of tasks remaining before we are ready to do so. The list can be found on the Working Group’s wiki: https://wiki.geant.org/display/GlobalMap/Version+1.0+Release+Task+List We are looking for members to participate in two ways: 1. Review the task list. Please let me know if you feel there are any items missing to get ready for “version one point zero” release, or if you have any other feedback about the list. (Note that of course we intend for development to continue after v1.0 is released. There is a long wish list of features still in the backlog, and surely more will be proposed once this is out in the wild. For the moment, we want to identify what is required as a bare minimum for the system to function usefully and securely enough to start assembling real data and publishing some basic maps.) 2. Sign up to oversee tasks. We are looking specifically for names attached to the “Managed By” field for each task, not the “Assigned To” fields for the subtasks. What this means is that accepting these responsibilities would not necessarily imply doing any of the actual work (although we would welcome that too!), but rather to plan the implementation, recruit people to do the work, supervise the task, ensure it gets done, and briefly report on progress when appropriate. The task list page may look long, but don’t be fooled, the tasks are mostly each quite small; many likely involve only a handful of hours! Please reach out to me if you have any feedback or questions, or if you’d like to go ahead and sign up to manage a task! Our imminent meeting is also another great time to bring anything up. Ideally, we request your responses by February 1. Cheers, Ryan

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In person meeting at TNC 22?
by Dan Sellars 25 Mar '22

25 Mar '22

Hello All, I hope you are well. Who will be in person at TNC this year? From CANARIE’s regular working group attendees Tom, Ryan and I are planning on attending and I am sure some others. If we can arrange time to have an in person meeting I think it would be really great. Would any of you have time on either the Monday or Friday to get together? We can arrange specifics closer to the time, I would just like to see who is interested for now. Best Regards, Dan. Dan Sellars | Manager, Software Development | CANARIE dan.sellars(a)canarie.ca

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GREN Map WG Meeting Agenda: Demo!
by Ryan Davies 07 Mar '22

07 Mar '22

Greetings GREN Mappers, At our upcoming meeting, we can look forward to seeing a demo of the current state of the GREN Map software stack in the development stage. Thanks to Dan for assembling this demo, which consists of a handful of database nodes spun up on two of CANARIE’s cloud clusters, and their visualisation instances, plus some data from just a few participating networks at three levels in the data hierarchy. Dan will run through a quick tour of the software and how he’s got them set up, then we will welcome questions. The demo should help us focus our efforts in the lead-up to our first public release. Though we have previously generally converged on the recommendations made recently by the development team, this might help illuminate some of the details and inspire further thoughts. This is a great segue to the other major topic as we push towards an initial public release: the list of non-development tasks we feel are required to support the software in order to make this a viable product for the world to begin using. There are still many items without names attached to them. The GREN Map project wiki has been down for a while; it will hopefully be back up soon. In the mean time, in the meeting, we will review a local copy I have of the list, in hopes that we will continue to welcome more small contributions from the group. (Many tasks involve only a small time commitment.) Thus comprises the agenda for the meeting: 1. Demo * Guided Tour * Questions 2. Release Task List Review 3. Other Business 4. Next Meeting Cheers, Ryan

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GREN Map WG
by Ryan Davies 17 Feb '22

17 Feb '22

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GREN Map WG
by Ryan Davies 17 Feb '22

17 Feb '22

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Re: GREN Map Working Group
by Michael Stanton 12 Jan '22

12 Jan '22

Hi Tom and Alex Good to hear from you. It was a bit of a unexpected shock. Fortunately I was with specialists at a high quality hospital here, who were able to cope quickly with the situation. I expect to be at home tonight. Michael ________________________________ From: Tom Vitez <Tom.Vitez(a)canarie.ca> Sent: Tuesday, 11 January 2022, 16:56 To: Alex S. Moura; Michael Stanton; Ryan Davies; Gren-mapping-wg(a)lists.nordu.net; ajay(a)sanren.ac.za; john(a)sanren.ac.za; Schopf, Jennifer M; ian.galpin(a)geant.org; Dan Doyle Subject: RE: GREN Map Working Group I’m just reading thus now... Michael, that sounds a bit frightening. I hope all is well and wish you a speedy recovery! Kind Regards, Tom From: Alex S. Moura <alex.moura(a)kaust.edu.sa> Sent: January 11, 2022 2:37 PM To: Michael Stanton <michael.stanton(a)rnp.br>; Ryan Davies <Ryan.Davies(a)canarie.ca>; Gren-mapping-wg(a)lists.nordu.net; Tom Vitez <Tom.Vitez(a)canarie.ca>; ajay(a)sanren.ac.za; john(a)sanren.ac.za; Schopf, Jennifer M <jmschopf(a)indiana.edu>; ian.galpin(a)geant.org; Dan Doyle <daldoyle(a)globalnoc.iu.edu> Subject: Re: GREN Map Working Group ________________________________ External This email originated from outside the organization. Use caution when following links as they could open malicious web sites. ________________________________ Dear Michael, Wow, that sounds like a bloody bleeding! I hope you are better, and can rest, and I wish you a prompt recovery. Get well soon! Warmest regards, Alex ________________________________ From: Michael Stanton <michael.stanton(a)rnp.br<mailto:michael.stanton@rnp.br>> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 6:28 PM To: Ryan Davies; Gren-mapping-wg(a)lists.nordu.net<mailto:Gren-mapping-wg@lists.nordu.net>; Tom Vitez; ajay(a)sanren.ac.za<mailto:ajay@sanren.ac.za>; john(a)sanren.ac.za<mailto:john@sanren.ac.za>; Schopf, Jennifer M; ian.galpin(a)geant.org<mailto:ian.galpin@geant.org>; Dan Doyle Subject: [GREN-Mapping-WG] Re: GREN Map Working Group Hi all Sorry to have missed today's meeting without warning. This was caused by my spending last night in hospital after a scheduled visit to take some cell samples resulted in excessive bleeding, which required corrective measures. I should be home tonight or tomorrow. Michael ________________________________ From: Ryan Davies via GREN Mapping WG <gren-mapping-wg(a)lists.nordu.net<mailto:gren-mapping-wg@lists.nordu.net>> on behalf of Ryan Davies <Ryan.Davies(a)canarie.ca<mailto:Ryan.Davies@canarie.ca>> Sent: Friday, December 24, 2021 10:59:20 AM To: Gren-mapping-wg(a)lists.nordu.net<mailto:Gren-mapping-wg@lists.nordu.net> <Gren-mapping-wg(a)lists.nordu.net<mailto:Gren-mapping-wg@lists.nordu.net>>; Tom Vitez <Tom.Vitez(a)canarie.ca<mailto:Tom.Vitez@canarie.ca>>; ajay(a)sanren.ac.za<mailto:ajay@sanren.ac.za> <ajay(a)sanren.ac.za<mailto:ajay@sanren.ac.za>>; john(a)sanren.ac.za<mailto:john@sanren.ac.za> <john(a)sanren.ac.za<mailto:john@sanren.ac.za>>; Schopf, Jennifer M <jmschopf(a)indiana.edu<mailto:jmschopf@indiana.edu>>; ian.galpin(a)geant.org<mailto:ian.galpin@geant.org> <ian.galpin(a)geant.org<mailto:ian.galpin@geant.org>>; Dan Doyle <daldoyle(a)globalnoc.iu.edu<mailto:daldoyle@globalnoc.iu.edu>> Subject: [GREN-Mapping-WG] GREN Map Working Group When: 11 January 2022 10:00-11:00. Where: https://canarie.zoom.us/j/63573341141?pwd=Zm0wWkJ6ZTMrbnNSaU96WnNuQ3pRdz09<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/canarie.zoom.us/j/63573341141?pwd=Zm0wWk…> Hi there, Ryan Davies is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. Time: This is a recurring meeting Meet anytime Join from a PC, Mac, iPad, iPhone or Android device: Please click this URL to start or join. https://canarie.zoom.us/j/63573341141?pwd=Zm0wWkJ6ZTMrbnNSaU96WnNuQ3pRdz09<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/canarie.zoom.us/j/63573341141?pwd=Zm0wWk…> Or, go to https://canarie.zoom.us/join<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/canarie.zoom.us/join__;!!Nmw4Hv0!m8bVT-f…> and enter meeting ID: 635 7334 1141 and password: 039224 Join from dial-in phone line: Dial: +1 647 558 0588 Meeting ID: 635 7334 1141 Participant ID: Shown after joining the meeting International numbers available: https://canarie.zoom.us/u/g7ZZPyTBU<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/canarie.zoom.us/u/g7ZZPyTBU__;!!Nmw4Hv0!…>

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GREN Map Working Group
by Ryan Davies 11 Jan '22

11 Jan '22

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GREN Map Admin Authentication
by Dan Sellars 05 Jan '22

05 Jan '22

Hello Everyone, I hope you all had a happy holidays and New Year. In the last working group I brought up the topic of handling authentication in the GREN node. To be clear this will just be for administrators of a GREN Map instance, not someone viewing the map — that will be open. Currently for the development and sandbox instance we are using the built in django username and password functionality and as we all know in the modern world this is not adequate for going live. I brought up the option of using FIM / Federated SSO (eduGAIN) as the authentication mechanism. Marco very eloquently argued the case that we should make federated SSO the only option. Those that don't have FIM/SSO are encouraged to get it set up or request help to get it set up. Having exception discourages adoption and in South America RedCLARA now insists on it for all their services. (Marco please feel free to add or correct me if I have mischaracterised your point here). This view strongly aligns with CANARIE's approach. The general consensus among the other GREN Mapping working group members present was that SSO was pretty much ubiquitous, especially in Europe, and that support for other regions could be provided in one way or another. Not having to be concerned with password management and protection of PII is of great benefit to adopting SSO. We would therefore like to propose for the initial release of the GREN Map, we allow Admin logins only via SSO. This is a big decision so I would like to give other members of the working group the opportunity to have their say. We can discuss more at the next Working Group meeting on the 11th January or via email exchange if you cannot make it then. Best Regards, Dan. Dan Sellars | Manager, Software Development | CANARIE dan.sellars(a)canarie.ca

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GREN Map Working Group
by Ryan Davies 24 Dec '21

24 Dec '21

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